Marie Kondō, can you green up your act? By Leslie Kramer

Marie Kondō, can you green up your act? By Leslie Kramer
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See Leslie help declutter her childhood family home and notice the meaning she attaches to objects. From Leslie pines for her shrines

Leslie Kramer has appeared many times in the magazine. She is Manager, Energy Retrofit Programs at Stanford University.¹

I first read The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing in 2015, well before Marie Kondō became a cult figure and a verb.  I fell in love with the book immediately.  She won me over with the acknowledgement that most of us deeply desire to have neater homes, less clutter, and more harmony, and yet most of us are basically slobs. The engineer in me loved the idea of getting organized by focusing on categories, instead of on rooms or areas, and I was also taken in by her insights regarding the false pretenses that we use to hold on to junk.  I committed to following her plan, and made real headway.  However, I was pretty sure I’d relapse and be back to disorder, and to some extent I did regress, but I internalized the basics, and I have a calmer, less stormy relationship with my belongings, almost as though I had gone through couples therapy with my stuff.

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Provided by Leslie Kramer

But I still have some unresolved issues. As an environmentalist who’s concerned about  overconsumption, my first reaction was that Marie Kondō is preaching an ideology that hates too much stuff, and presents a vision of a less materialistic lifestyle.  And unlike, say, Real Simple magazine, which seems to be about selling new stuff to make it look like you are living simply,   Kondō does  emphasize that re-organizing shouldn’t mean going out and buying new containers, but that old shoe boxes for example can be used instead.

Interestingly though, Kondō  doesn’t frame her advice at all in terms of greenness or environmental sustainability. She is focused on reducing excesses in our homes, but somehow never makes any suggestions that we should buy less. We are supposed to ask if things we have give us joy before deciding to keep them, but she never takes the next step of advising  us to stop ourselves at the store and ask if the new thing we are buying is likely to give us joy.

The attic of Leslie's childhood home. One section is devoted to Leslie's stuff and memorabilia. [Photo: David Kramer]

The attic of Leslie’s childhood home, deeply in need of a Kondonization. One section is devoted to Leslie’s stuff and memorabilia. [Photo: David Kramer]

She also suggests that the way to clear out our houses is to let go of things we think we might need someday in the future. And if we realize a month later we needed that ethernet cable?  Oh just buy another one.

And as for the unwanted items, she devotes no attention to what to do with all the junk. She discourages giving it to friends and relatives, as that may just be adding to their overabundance of stuff. And there is no mention of recycling.  Nor is their mention of donating items to charity.

A recent story on NPR related to the carrying capacity of the earth concluded that we would have to reduce consumption by 50% to sustain ourselves on an ever more crowded earth. Can Marie Kondō  help us with that challenge? I think she can, because if she can help us be happy with less stuff in our houses, then we should be happy buying less stuff in the first place. Unless the take away from her book is that we can buy a lot so long as we throw it away at the same pace that we’re buying it, i.e. if we don’t hold on to it too long.

Anthropologists talk about the meaning attached to objects, and Kondō  gets that, and gives us ways of stripping meaning from things so we can let go of them. She is not persuaded that we need to hang on to gifts, especially when the giver will never know if we’ve chucked it. She is proposing to disrupt some of our deepest cultural norms related to gifts to enable us to purge unused wedding presents and the like.  But can she help us disrupt our excessive gift exchange practices so we don’t give and get so many gifts in the first place?

Provided by Leslie Kramer

Provided by Leslie Kramer

Of course we have all heard that retail consumption is the engine of economic growth. Can we sustain an economy with less stuff? Books like Prosperity without Growth (Tim Jackson) argue that we can, so let’s assume for now that we will not be destroyed by under-consumption.  So we do want Kondō  to help us get there.

So Marie, in your next book or TV show, consider giving us tips on reducing what we buy. If we buy smarter, we’ll end up with much less to jettison.  And please also help us think of better ways to dispose of items that no longer give us joy. We need to determine if our trash is another person’s treasure  — and how to get the treasure to them.

¹Leslie Kramer in LinkedIn


If a flip phone is good enough for my senator, it’s good enough for me.

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See Leslie saving energy by trying to curb her cell phone habit. From If a flip phone is good enough for my senator, it’s good enough for me.

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David (left) and Leslie Kramer, 31 Ledgewood Road, Kingston, Rhode Island, 1994 See Leslie help declutter and notice the meaning she attaches to objects. From Leslie pines for her shrines


About The Author

Welcome to Talker of the Town! My name is David Kramer. I have a Ph.D in English and teach at Keuka College. I am a former and still active Fellow at the Nazareth College Center for Public History and a Storyteller in Residence at the SmallMatters Institute. Over the years, I have taught at Monroe Community College, the Rochester Institute of Technology and St. John Fisher College. I have published numerous Guest Essays, Letters, Book Reviews and Opinion pieces in The New York Times, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, the Buffalo News, the Rochester Patriot, the Providence Journal, the Providence Business News, the Brown Alumni Magazine, the New London Day, the Boston Herald, the Messenger Post Newspapers, the Wedge, the Empty Closet, the CITY, Lake Affect Magazine and Brighton Connections. My poetry appears in The Criterion: An International Journal in English and Rundenalia and my academic writing in War, Literature and the Arts and Twentieth Century Literary Criticism. Starting in February 2013, I wrote for three Democratic and Chronicle  blogs, "Make City Schools Better," "Unite Rochester," and the "Editorial Board." When my tenure at the D & C  ended, I wanted to continue conversations first begun there. And start new ones.  So we created this new space, Talker of the Town, where all are invited to join. I don’t like to say these posts are “mine.” Very few of them are the sole product of my sometimes overheated imagination. Instead, I call them partnerships and collaborations. Or as they say in education, “peer group work.” Talker of the Town might better be Talkers of the Town. The blog won’t thrive without your leads, text, pictures, ideas, facebook shares, tweets, comments and criticisms.


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